So sayeth Scotty, the contrarian. Most actresses on TV, if theyre 58 probably weigh 120# or less. GD, what shoes is David wearing in those pics? David Ajala: Ive never thought about that. Biography Id add Kirk to that at several times over the years. I wanted to be bigger and I spent much of my childhood, adolescence and even into my young adulthood doing all kinds of things to get bigger. She laughs at the memory. Im relieved to say I have no idea how that feels, and its something I cant even stomach thinking about, frankly. Development for the fifth season of Discovery is well underway, with production expected to begin in June. Personally I would put Barclay and Trois Mom in that group too, but not sure recurring characters belong with regulars in this race. Martin-Green says she has come to accept changes in her body, especially after the birth of her second child shortly before production on season three: With my first pregnancy I bounced back without trying (which is a crime, by the way, that we expect women to do that after birth rather than focus on healing). lol ;). At New York Comic Con, TrekMovie participated in some group interviews with members of the cast and crew,. Having Tilly be one was justdumb. Since you said mum Im going to assume youre in the UK, and I can personally confirm that you can get some great help, including face to face therapy, through the NHS, for free. I hope that Wiseman uses that info into the future because it does work for fat burning and muscle building. Bullied badly as a child and teen so I know what I speak of; Im just glad I grew up pre-Internet, and I sympathize with any nowadays who have to deal with Internet bullying on top of real world bullying. Season four of Star Trek: Discovery arrives on Thursday, November 18 on Paramount+. Thats the whole point why they wanted HER to teach at the newly formed Academy They wanted someone with the original 23rd century optimism and enthusiasm I share that notion a lot And yeah, Im glad Starfleet doesnt work like actual military, And no, S3 was not stupidity. Wiseman possess voluptuous hourglass shaped figure. Paramount+'s Star Trek: Discovery is the flagship of the modern-day Star Trek television franchise, premiering in 2017 and about to launch its fourth season on November 18. Shes only competent because of her character shield, shes mentally and emotionally immature, out of shape for the job shes in and the role she wanted to perform, and would barely survive in a high school, let alone in any capacity at an actual Starfleet. I think the ship can handle a little chonk. Personally I dont find that inspiring in any way whatsoever. This time, even if I wanted that, my body said: no were going to take some time here, we need to heal. And so, I find myself in this bigger, fuller body and it made me appreciate where I was before. Maybe not but what are your thoughts? And thats a healthy outlook. Its participation trophy trek. And I know Chakotay was also Captain on Voyager in those books as well. Mary Wiseman is a good actress but even with that, if Star Trek Discovery was shot in 80s or 90s producers would probably force her to go on a diet or even fire her. Troi made explicit the evil intent lies we tell each other and ourselves to gain selfish material and political advantage. Like a lot of people, she pivoted and found herself in a new role as teacher. You misunderstood. Hahahaha! I would expect more from the Star Trek crowd, which is usually quite enlightened. The doctor was usually the therapist. Im sorry but what youve described about Tilly is like something out of a Nickelodeon teen high school drama. That is definitely not a true statement. Its so brutal. The accent is too colloquial. Many smoke to keep the weight off. Understanding? Anyway it was just a thought. Have to disagree. He was competing in show jumping events with his horses until at least his 70s. If we dont have tolerance and respect, how are we able to learn and improve humanity!? Well, Renos really more engineering. Anyway, another Discovery-ism, amongst the many other weird decisions on this show. Like damn the guy's 90 ffs give him a break. Youre saying she isnt believeable because she sounds like she has a 21st century *accent*? I think that she is one of the go-to people when there is hard science stuff to crack. I expect that well have her in the world and all of those things. Agree. So her appearances ended up not being 100% awful. . I know most dont share my opinon that after a terrible first half of S1, I have generally liked Discovery but making Tilly first officer was quite possibly the most ridiculous plot twist in the history of Trek. It makes sense there would be and that they be a part of the medical team. I wasnt complaining there were therapists on board. Can Picard go round the sun once more and rescue Saru from Discovery? That one ship generates more energy than present-day Earths entire human energy expenditure, generates its own artificial gravity, and violates causality routinely. Then there are many women like Sonequa, who feel theyre too skinny. David, Can we expect any surprising uses of the special things that Book can do in season four, now that he can control the spore drive? The other big issue Ive always had is the graphic nature of violence, this We are TV-MA streaming, so we can do anything attitude I simply hate that. DSC has a wonderful cast and a neat diverse set of characters. (OMG, weve gone way off topic lol. However, the problem with Tilly (and this really is more of a Star Trek Discovery problem because it exists with every character they do this to) is that she never made strides or attempts to improve. Proceed accordingly. It explains why each scene is half-redundant and half-contradictory with the others within the same episode. Thanks for the heads up about Beyer and the Voyager books. Mary Wiseman: Right, when you use empathy for evil, its manipulation. There is also the issue that a crew needing constant therapy sessions while regularly saving the galaxy is not an easy narrative trick to pull off. We have no information that Beyer consults in this show. All those wonderful things that dont make you a good human being. I thought her arc was going to end with her being booted from the service for repeatedly failing physical fitness tests? Seasons one through three are available to stream now on CBS All Access. Its odd that the bridge crew still feels in the background although they are being used more. See more at the Paley Center for Media Arts' Star Trek: Discovery Fight for the Future exhibit in Los Angeles, now through July 7th. Everyone in the world do not look and act the same if it was for me, it would be a very boring uninterested world. How does Tillys scientific mind come into play in solving the crisis of the anomaly in season four? From what Ive read, having her on the bridge because of her betazed abilities was what Roddenberry had in mind. Episodes will be. I wonder if there is any news that she might be pregnant. In fact, at least on this website, I often see the contrary. Andrew: Great, perceptive, thoughtful post! Season 4 sees Sonequa Martin-Green's, Michael Burnham, return with her. It included a lot of the old characters too like Chakotay, BElanna, Tuvok with a lot of new characters. Jealous and insecure,they can only feel better by putting others down. I think the character would have been much better served if Tillys quirks were something that changed as the character grew over the seasons. As you put it: I love how Disco has put the human back into the human experience. And I agree wholeheartedly. So, although he does the occasional guest star role in other shows produced in Canada, he could take on a larger role on Discovery. Control over ones own body is the most basic freedom we should have. I keep hearing the word heartthats the poorest excuse yet. Plenty of curvy ladies are quite healthy and active. IMHO, if she usually eats well, trains and commits to staying healthy, then life can be a lot of fun leading an active adventurous life while still enjoying food and fine dining and it is irrelevant what people say about her looks. Body shaming is wrong and immature. All Access Star Trek Podcast, Discovery, DS9, Lower Decks, Section 31, Star Trek 4, Star Trek: Picard, Star Trek: Prodigy, Strange New Worlds. However, I do struggle with popular media normalizing unhealthy weights whether over or underweight because they are health risks. After all, it DOES seem as though Tilly is gone from the crew for the time being. Im not counting on it. Definitely not a dig at the actress, she is only delivering what the directors and producers have asked her to deliver. Good for her, and I love the character! Rumors started when some problematic fans of Star Trek Discovery found out that she gained a few pounds between the seasons. Conversational, easy to listen to and understand every point. Plus, TNG literally had a therapist as part of the bridge crew. Just when it looks like the character has finally grown as a person and doing her own thing, comes right back. A Stitch in Time kicks off the Garak/Cardassian books and is excellent. The actress also discussed how Killy inspires some fans: Killy is somebody whos very important to a lot of fans, especially my curvy women out there who like to see another full-figured, fat, curvy, chunky woman get to feel powerful and use that size to command authority, said Wiseman. I know a thing or two about haters-pay no mind. New episodes ofStarTrek: Discoverypremiere on Thursdays onCBS All Accessin the U.S. andonCTV Sci-Fi Channelin Canada, where its also available to stream onCrave. Mention one thing or person loved by EVERYBODY. Acceptance? Although it is true that on *average*, overweight people are less healthy than other people, it is also entirely possible to be overweight and healthy. When a show blankets the airwaves with hugs and confessionals and cheering it tends to make any subtler moments stand out far less, but this is also not a subtle show to begin with. I didnt like Reed from Enterprise, does that make me a troll? Its just lazy writing. I dont think Tilly is ruined. For me, generally speaking, when Barclay or Trois mom appeared it signaled a terrible episode in advance. Wiseman was appreciative of fans who had her back online: I just want to say that all the people who step in, to back me up like that, your presence is like little angels, like blocking out these little trolls. Body shaming is just another category of bullying, with the same general goal of the shamer making him/herself feel superior by putting down others around them, rather than elevate him/herself with goodwill and compassion. Also the writers, Erika Lipoldt and Bo Yeon Kim. It is also available on Netflix in 190 countries around the world. Its very possible Mary Wiseman wanted off the show, or needed a bit of a break. Because Book is someone who doesnt just have cerebral, intellectual intelligence. KevinB: Oh, I agree with you, in the sense that nothing is perfect and there are flaws and issues here and there. Diplomacy? I see them as similar. Mary Wiseman Net Worth The net worth of Mary Wiseman has been estimated at $1 million. Something happened to Tilly (Wiseman) and Bryce (Rowe). Btw, I really liked the scene of Tilly and Burnham running back in S1 and eating protein, carbs and fat post workout. DSC had many issues at the beginning. Then maybe I would actually remember his name! What was your point to this comment, anyway, except to minimize and dismiss support for plus-size women? Definitely a character created for the TikTok generation to like.. high five, hugs and ditziness with lots of over emotional feelings on display. I would just be happy if Rhys got more than three lines an episode lol. The message she is sending how? Yes, she was a therapist that say patients in her office but her betazoid abilities aided Picard. With predictive spelling and multiple languages available, incorrect word choice is a constant threat even when one does type in the correct word. But I did not watch DIS S4 either. No one can be expected to sugarcoat reality for you, and your attitude to people who dont is very indicative that you need someone to help you with that. Lwaxana sometimes I dont mind her simply because she puts Picard and Odo on their back feet, but she was very OTT on shows that didnt really have a lot of OTT characters, and there was little reason for her to keep appearing on DS9 beyond reverence towards Majel Barrett. I admit, has been a roller coaster between each season. Star Trek: Discovery's Mary Wiseman and Blu del Barrio reflect on their character's journeys and the possibilities ahead. Its gotten very stale now. I have only heard of the details a few months ago thanks to a video that TrekCentral (amazing YouTube channel) made about it for Prodigy theorizing a connection. And if people are critical of her because her appearance does not meet their expectations, they dont really have a clue of what Star Trek is all about. That way she wont get the appearance she does now of jumping over more experienced officers and seeming to just get ahead because shes Sarus favorite. Saru would then recognize the potential in her, give her opportunities to build her self esteem and confidence, and wed get a good arc that doesnt seem forced like it does now. Im proud to see that shes proud of herself. I highly doubt the writers decided to just write her off for the hell of it (especially given how much everyone in the cast and crew love her). Imo, this show tries so overly hard to be socially progressive, its the very thing that makes it a turn-off. Maybe its just me, but I dont really care about women or mens weight on TV shows, I dont care for negative comments on them by haters, but neither do I care for the actors/actresses making such a whiney big deal about it. Its shall we say very variable. I like seeing her in the series and like knowing that girls who are considered chunky by their teen or tween peers will know they can become something special and respectable, even if they dont have the ideal Hollywood body type. ..I have a total girl crush. First of all, because theres more options for cosplay now, because she changed her hair. Actually, the production team is not helping either. Story: With . Ok, SH didnt invent this. If I was a public figure I would do zero social media, ignore the internet, cash my massive paychecks, sign autographs for real in-person fans I meet, and be so thankful Im not working in a grunt job making minimum wage. And, yeah, I've also heard a rumor about a potential Starfleet Academy series, and I'm assuming it's being set in the future setting of Discovery. The frequency and level of mockery and hate, very often is targeted to the female actors, for them to behave like women, to behave as woman leaders. But it looks like TG47 answered your question! The very basis of Star Trek is in direct conflict with people like that. I suspect that Prodigy may use some of the elements that Beyer expanded or created for Full Circle without actually developing any of the overall story arc. And Books starshipthink of it as Star Treks answer to the Astro Megaship from Power Rangers in Space. And it all happened OFF SCREEN! If they wont act a woman should take a pear of pruning shears and cut off that little pecker of yours (its what Killy would do). Tilly is the most human member of the crew. By indicating that shes not ashamed of her body? What do you think it looks like? Overcome her issues. David Ajala: I think its made Cleveland Booker even more attracted to Michael Burnham because I think he looks and goes Oh, scrumptious. Youve got to hand it to Harry Kim. Internationally, the series is available on Paramount+ in Australia, Latin America and the Nordics, and on Pluto TV in Austria, France, Germany . Im sure nearly everyone of the crew of TNG had issues and problems. So it has been hard, and its really hard to avoid, because it pops up on all the [social media] accounts, or people comment on my posts with cruel, unscientific comments. Have to completely agree you T2. Would a woman watching this aspire to be a Tilly or aspire to be a Dax, Kira or Janeway? And its funny that you bring up needing constant therapy as a bad thing when a ton of real life people see a therapist on a regular basis. Yes, I like both Barclay and Tilly. And now, with only three years under her belt in the field, only two of which were as a ranked officer, they think shes somehow ready to train the next generation of recruits?! Keep up with all the news and reviews from the newStar Trek Universe on TV at TrekMovie.com. Also, quite likely theyre pointing her towards a bigger role in their upcoming Academy show, when she does want the work of tv again. A rare, successful example of this is James Gunns Guardians otG and Suicide Squad, in which a similar premise is treated comedically yet with a touch of sincerity, so as not to devolve into outright farce. Most of what she did was convey the amazingly obvious like offering such useful insights such as, Hes concealing something but I dont know what. And her abilities were never fully defined. Mary Wiseman is a beautiful lady as is Sonequa Martin-Green. out of shape for the job shes in and the role she wanted to perform. I gave this dumpster fire of far left propaganda 4 seasons. Sharing? That could be it. Tilly is Trekdom. Picard is the third Kurtzman Production. Hes been very creative in using callbacks and interweaving eras in his own work. That was an awfully fast turnaround. Background information. Its a problem in even some least developed countries now. Do you see that tension? He has been part of the Litverse writers room run by Pocket Books and knows not only Beyers works but the books written by others in great detail, and across all eras. From the next episode on season 3 which was at least okay up to that point started to completely fall apart. Sonequa is a great actress. The entire point of Tillys character is that shes a Starfleet officer that doesnt have to be a supermodel like so many Trek characters before: Troi, Seven, TPol, Jadzia perfect golden cut supermodels. I let go of my preconceptions about what star trek is. I think people need that kind of thing to heal. Weight Gain Explained Rumors are going on that Mary Wiseman is pregnant and she has gained weight. Sure, its not perfect, we all have a nitpick here and there, but as long as it has a message, it revolves around people, and some cool science stuff, its trek to me. That promise was. I just dont remember if it was something I read years ago or if it was in an interview with Gene. It doesnt matter either way but with so much Voyager mythology created in those novels, it would be cool to see some of it translated on this show! What accent? Finally, Starfleet isn't a military organisation or an army. His Voyager appearances were also horrid. The Enterprise D was the only place we saw a councelor. Theres a difference between celebrating obesity and accepting individual human beings, treating them as human beings, and not targeting them specifically for emotional harassment. After they wrote her to be the most annoying person possible. I want to really like Discovery, I do. The show had its official opening on Monday, March 21st, and is currently set to run through April 24. However, Tilly's rise to Lieutenant in Thursday's episode of Star Trek: Discovery did not invoke feelings of joy. all the outfits here are golden IMO but those shoes murder! But I really do like Book a lot! I always felt that I wanted hips and a butt. We love that someone who isnt super fit was cast, especially that its a woman. And no one in their right mind would play poker with her. Its good to have ALL type of people/stories in our Star Trek Universe. Theres even a scene where she pretty much turns to the camera and says that shell stay till the very end. The audience is growing due to our amazing loyalty, but I give them credit toobecause Discovery, we have all these new shows. For people who dont know, it had to do with Voyager leading a fleet of ships going back to the Delta Quadrant a few years after Voyager arrived home. But my initial annoyed response to DISCO in particular, well, Ive let go of that in the past two years, as life is too short to get all worked-up angry over personal quibbles with a tv show. She is a real girl. She hopped over those 900 years. Its 2020 and were taking any more of your sh!t. Between Marys comments about how Tilly internalizes her experiences as acting First Officer and Captain and the fact that we see Gen Rhys in the big chair in one of the early production stills, does anyone think that Discovery might get Treks first regular series Asian First Officer? I recall when Trek featured a French captain with an English accent. Somehow these insecure people feel others not like them are a threat to how they see themselves and how the world should, in their opinion, be. You know what, fvck you, Vulcan Soul. No one can argue that Shatner is anything less than fit at whatever age. Along with this, the biggest thing that Michael aided Tilly with was her confidence. I echo your sentiments exactly, David.